Super Persimmon

[MSwildman]

Has anyone planted persimmon trees for bow stands/etc? We are grafting some next spring. We are grafting a giant japanese oriental perimmon to a native american tree. These persimmons get to be the size of a large apple. These are supposed to be hardy down to 0 degrees F.

[ed@rack-max]

Has anyone planted persimmon trees for bow stands/etc? We are grafting some next spring. We are grafting a giant japanese oriental perimmon to a native american tree. These persimmons get to be the size of a large apple. These are supposed to be hardy down to 0 degrees F.

[ed@rack-max]

Persimmons, are one of the best ways to keep deer coming back over and over as long as the fruit last. The way we keep the fruit longer is to fertilize the tree with what the distance around the tree is at the ground say 12 inches, we will use 12 lbs. 13-13-13 and a mixture of 8 oz. RACK-MAX with 5 gallons of water and pour around the drip line .one thing I like to do is when out shopping and find stores that store their fertilizer out side this makes the fertilizer cake up in the bags because of the moisture. all you do is break off pieces and through it under the drip line.W A L A!!! you have a time released fertilizer that works great.

[THETOOLMAN]

smileys/smiley1.gif I never grafted a perssimon. but I have planted wild fruit and they came up, the deer love them!!!!!!! where do you get the grafts from!!!!

[ed@rack-max]

I HAVE HUNTED PERSIMMON TREES FOR YEARS. GOOD BOW HUNTERS KNOW THAT DEER LOVE THESE TREES. THE WAY THAT I HAVE FOUND TO KEEP DEER COMING BACK OVER AND OVER IS TO FERTILIZE THE TREES WITH 13-13-13- IF THE TREE IS 12 INCHES IN DIAMITER I USE 12 LBS. OF FERTILIZER AND 8 OZ. RACKMAX BIO STIMULANT IN 5 GALLONS OF WATER POUR THIS MIXTURE AROUND THE DRIP LINE OF THE TREE.THIS GENERATES MORE SUGAR IN THE FRUIT AND MAKES THEM HEALTHIER. THE MORE FRUIT THAT TASTE GOOD THE MORE DEER YOU WILL HAVE COMING TO THE TREES.

[Chad Dauthier]

Ok my experience with persimmons. We have several trees that I bow hunt over. One that I hunt primarily is about 2-3 feet in diameter. This sucker is huge. Deer tracks all under it very time I go. Climb up in it everyday, and about 5:00 I hear something coming. Stand up...get ready. It's getting closer. Pick Bow up to get ready to pull back. Crunch, crunch. Every time, its a da^% armadillo. Those suckers will sit there and eat every persimmon we have under the tree. I have been bowhunting for 15 years and still have yet to see a deer eat a persimmon. I am fairly successful in that I take a couple very year with my bow, but have never seen one eating them. So, my money is spent on oaks. smileys/smiley1.gif
Oh yeah, and my corn feedersmileys/smiley2.gif

[MSwildman]

Toolman, we have a family friend that is a tree expert, he lives in arkansas and visits mississippi several times a year. I mentioned the idea to him, and he told me he had a lot of experience doing this grafting. He will help me do it this coming spring, and he likes the native per. trees to be about thumb sized. These larger persimmons stay on the trees a lot longer after ripening. Because of medium size of the tree, most deer should be able to reach them on the trees, and the rodent problem shouldn't be as bad. Won't know how good it is till I try, but I think it will work out great. Next time I see him, I will get more info to post on here for all.

[Thayer.qdma]

I would really like to know what came of the grafting, or possible places to get a similar tree?

[4x4man514]

i have seen several places on the net that advertise grafted persimmon trees.the problem is they say their sold out and will be sold out for the next few YEARS!i also would really like to know where i could actually get some.

[Trophy Doe]

I would like to recommend planting some improved native American persimmons. They are not quite as big or pretty as their oriental cousins, but they taste better to me and I think I can say the same for the deer, too. Some improved versions of the native are Yates, Meader, Early Golden, Claypool, Morris Burton, and John Rick. Seedlings with a name like this usually come grafted females only and you need to have a few males around or you'll never have any fruit. Plant one or two of each and if you find one that you and the deer like then take cuttings off of it and graft it to other seedlings. Different native varieties ripen from august to november and have subtle differences such as size of fruit and seed number. I have also noticed that the trees that produce the most fruit like to be facing south (north side of a field or road).

[Thayer.qdma]

Could you provide a link or an address to view these and their prices? Thanks for the info!!

[Trophy Doe]

I can't remember the name of the nursery where I got mine. It is out of cookeville, TN. I'll try and find the catalog and get back. I do remember that they did not have a website.

[THETOOLMAN]

any new info??smileys/smiley1.gif

[Bloodtracker]

I just ordered 15 @ 3 to 4 foot American persimmons at $3.50 each from this link. They also have a few of the grafted stuff left but it is much more expensive.

I never ordered from them before but they were real nice on the phone.

http://landru.myhome.net/burntridge/fruitree.html